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Approximate location of fire.  Courtesy: Google Maps
susan hiebert April 15, 2014 at 01:46 pm
I live here in the neighborhood and I will tell you that it is windy a lot, but I wouldn't say it isRead More windy 340 days a year. The attraction is the beautiful views, the fact that it is close to every recreational activity in the desert. It isn't crowded. No city street lights so star gazing is awesome. It is much warmer here in the winter than in Beaumont and only a few degrees warmer in the summer. btw the centeral jail or hub jail issue has already been fought and won. No jail of any kind will be going here.
beaumontdave April 15, 2014 at 06:38 pm
Susan if you're happy there, I'm good. The views are great, but unless I get Stubby Canyon CattleRead More Ranch, up in that canyon, I'm not moving
PrescientLogic April 15, 2014 at 08:02 pm
Southern exposure to a Summer Sun, a great view, plus the wind? Bwahahahahahahaha! I'd take thatRead More insurance money and be be leaving a Willie Boy tail out of there!
Mystery Hotel  20/30s?
Bernie April 14, 2014 at 02:10 pm
I forgot to mention. In the one pic, the yellow star marks the Reid Bldg on San G and Livingston.Read More There is, unfortunately, a black mark thru the name on the Hotel that obscures it. I've tried magnifying it further, but it then pixalates out...
MaryM April 15, 2014 at 07:13 am
Bernie...have you spoken with Bill Bell at the Banning Library? He has collected an amazing amountRead More of information on early Banning. If he doesn't know, I'm sure he would love to hear about it and join the 'quest'. Please let us know if you get any info.
Bernie April 15, 2014 at 08:22 am
Yes, Bill and I work together on a number of different historical things and we're running into aRead More brick wall on this one. No one seems to ever remember seeing the bldg. even. Thank you for the suggestion, tho...
Libi Uremovic April 15, 2014 at 06:13 pm
berg starts out the council meeting talking about a presentation on 'clean diesel' ...
Libi Uremovic April 15, 2014 at 06:16 pm
berg: "In fact I even suggested that to one of the member on 'your' committee Dave."
Steve Mehlman April 15, 2014 at 06:43 pm
Stephen: I have seen some nice warehouse complexes. Redlands has one, for instance. It has wideRead More streets, good access and, most important, it is miles from a residential area. I'm not against warehouses in the right place. But a mile or less from four senior communities with 5,000+ people? I don't think so.
Midwest Hydroganics owner Joseph Vota said business has been booming since Patch revealed the DEA was staking out his store. Credit: Joseph Hosey
John April 15, 2014 at 04:10 pm
@Kim Johnson- don't be silly Kim. Barry 's been in charge for 6 yrs now and could of appointed OprahRead More to that position if he wanted to. .
Bruce Cummings April 15, 2014 at 07:05 pm
@Kim Johnson. Not that it matters, but you have your facts wrong. President Barack Obama nominatedRead More Leonhart for the position of DEA Administrator on 2/2/2010. The issue here is people should be able to shop at a store without being followed or have the NSA track each word I am typing.
knee jerk April 15, 2014 at 07:15 pm
I'll do my shopping in either Lowe's or Wal-Mart's garden centers, at least for now, and only useRead More cash.
Susan lasalle April 15, 2014 at 02:14 pm
Jason j a blog is not based on fact, laws are tough enough, jail time isn't. Maybe you need toRead More research your numbers more. Cussing out someone that dishes it out just like you yourself did, doesn't inspire anyone to read your blog.
KMA April 15, 2014 at 03:01 pm
Jason J- nice talk- do you kiss your momma with that mouth?Also grounds for flagging- but we willRead More let Renee handle that. " At lest it is fact"Jason the word is least. # Susan- thank you for your input.
jason j April 15, 2014 at 07:16 pm
kma stands for kiss my ass
Jordan S. Zoot April 15, 2014 at 11:11 am
Too bad the blithering idiots that wrote the article can't distinguish between a semi-automaticRead More pistol and a submachine gun.
joebanana April 15, 2014 at 11:44 am
A .22 cent tax on a SODA? Sounds like a Mob shakedown.
joe smoe April 15, 2014 at 12:02 pm
that's obama's home town. not that he showed up as a senator when we was one. too bad he isn't asRead More delinquent as Commander In Chief in the White House. He sucks hugely. A huge waste of a human being.
Twitter photo of the bus burned in a crash in Orland last week, where 10 people died, including five students.
Holly B April 14, 2014 at 07:20 pm
God bless Heaven's newest angels. We here on earth will miss them both.
RM April 15, 2014 at 08:26 am
Hey John Rithouse, if you don't like it, then don't come here for news. Guys like you make this sameRead More annoying comment every day. Are you mentally slow?
rubberband April 15, 2014 at 10:28 am
This was out in my neck of the woods. All really great kids, college bound and starting their adultRead More lives. Having lost a child, I can say these families will mourn for as long as they live, and will have to find a "new normal" as EVERYTHING is changed for them now...I wish them strength, there is nothing quite like burying a child. Appreciated are the messages of respect and sympathy. It can be annoying to get news from areas other than your own, however the new Patch is doing things differently, and show no evidence of changing it back.....my best advice would be to ignore stories not in your area, and to write your editor directly, and share your comments with those who can make changes.
pat April 14, 2014 at 06:40 am
Id give a year's pay if all our elected officials were concerned enough about our area and had theRead More integrity to ask and want to resolve problem issues the way Lloyd does .
desertpatriot April 14, 2014 at 04:24 pm
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2HwO2a265QvbzRwejk2bGdOUU0/edit
Libi Uremovic April 14, 2014 at 08:13 pm
'...I'd give a year's pay if all our elected officials were concerned enough about our area and hadRead More the integrity to ask and want to resolve problem issues the way Lloyd does ...' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ lloyd ran for school board in the last election ....every election cycle decent people try to run for office, but our politics are too corrupt and decent people can't get elected....but that's the fault of the people for being tricked by the corrupt...
Screen Grab from WCVB report of a senior home resident who was evacuated.
Kathleen April 15, 2014 at 06:47 pm
OK, let me take a wild guess here...This is Massachusetts so it shouldn't be that difficult toRead More figure it out. These two crack heads in their 40's are on SSI, claiming some phony disability and are living on SSI in a Section 8 apartment in a senior complex. Probably a good guess right? They put senior citizens in grave danger and will probably get a slap on the wrist and sent right back to live in the elderly housing... just a guess of course but probably pretty accurate. Either that or they are living in an apartment with one of their parents and are not on the lease but yet still live there...only in MA!
Geoff Burton April 15, 2014 at 07:40 pm
Kathleen I don't get the Massachusetts reference, having said that I think your about right.
century April 15, 2014 at 08:30 pm
Kathleen, your right. As for housing, the less number of homeless, the more grant money the city andRead More state receives for housing. It happens all the time in Pennsylvania. Free loaders like the crackheads mentioned in the story is why people who have legimate disabilities are judged as liars and have to fight for their rights.
Megan Huntsman: Credit KLTV screen grab
John April 15, 2014 at 11:23 am
Well gee officer, I was throwing out some old stinky boxes my wife had in our garage and the nextRead More thing you know......
Geoff Burton April 15, 2014 at 02:05 pm
Nothing new there Black panther o Poetry the human race has been delving the depth of depravity forRead More eons. There are a lot of good people in our world, but unfortunately evil is hyper active
D Penta April 15, 2014 at 02:29 pm
It says Around Town but the headline is UTAH. Utah is not near Natick!! I think everyone should notRead More open an article on Patch unless they see their town's name in the headline. So If it doesn't say Natick, then we all know it is not LOCAL to the Natick Patch. The less clicks these Patch sites get, the fewer advertisers they will get and then perhaps they will realize if we want sensational news from across the country we'd go back to Patch's former owners AOL and the HuffPost! Those here from other Patch sites - I think you should do the same only click on articles that mention your community's name. No name. No click!
Jeremiah April 14, 2014 at 11:35 am
The problem in a nutshell is that City staff made agreements with the developer which by theRead More contract itself they had no authority to make - agreements to change a project concept which was brought before the public and agreed upon by the Council. Now that this has been brought into the open and made known to the public, the developer has a vested interest in not having it brought before the council and the public and wants the Council to rubber-stamp the changes. Three on this council have refused to do so without the public knowing of the changes and getting their comments. The developer knows AB109 is the sticking point and knows that he will never get this by the citizens. So they have started removing the members of the Council who have asked for public comment and direction in order to get what they consider a better chance to wash this all under the rug with two members who have done just as Jerry Westholder did and indicated their position for validating the changes. You'll notice the developer didn't demand that they recuse themselves as biased, have they? **** Jeremiah
Rina Sander April 14, 2014 at 05:43 pm
When did you move to Banning, Jeremiah? It's beginning to sound like you have a vested interest inRead More this project. The majority of 3 seems to think they have a mandate of the citizens, when all is is is their group. Why not ask the citizens what they think. That's all of the citizens, not the folks who communicate through this thread. It is customary that council members make their opinions known after it comes to council. Any developer, bad or good gets the right to a hearing. How can that happen when council members lobby before the issue is heard? When does something good happen in Banning?
Jeremiah April 14, 2014 at 09:23 pm
Rina, good things will start to happen in Banning when you and all these other nebulous people startRead More attending council meetings and making their thoughts and wishes known. I have contacts all through Banning from business owners to churches to restaurants to residents to Council members. I was involved in several start-up businesses here. I will tell you that the word I get from the street is that most of the average citizens do not want a combined Parole/Probation department with an increasing number of AB109 felons located in a complex that was sold to them as a basically retail/hotel/restaurant/small office project. It is NOT a group of three Council members and their cronies as you would have people believe. **** I do have a vested interest in this project - I am a Banning citizen, and I have taken the time to get to know the people involved and the Council members and hear the different viewpoints. Something you obviously haven't done. I have offered a solution (which you obviously haven't read) and taken the time to speak to each of the Council about it. What have you done to present your viewpoint? The Council has asked for suggestions and comments from the public - have you responded to that? They are all very accessible and willing to listen to you. **** My personal stand is somewhere in the middle. I think the City should offer a vacant piece of land near the courthouse at the same terms as the El Paseo project to the developer for the express purpose of building a home for the Parole/Probation department and keep it out of the "Jewel" area. I think they should go ahead and allow the change from a hotel to another "Retail/Office" parcel. If they can obtain a lease from the Riverside County District Attorney's Office for the top floor of the initial construction, the rest of the top offices will fill with attorneys because of the DA and the courthouse. That will draw a restaurant such as Souplantation or Olive Garden or Chili's to serve the Court traffic and attorneys and jurors. That leaves the bottom areas for business support retail. That is my thought and it is a win for everyone involved - especially the public. **** What do you think, Rina, should be done about the fact that the City Manager signed letters of agreement with the developer which were beyond his authorized power to do, in effect bypassing the Council and the public? What do you think should be done about the broken provisions of the contract? Where does the buck stop and all the underhanded stuff be made right and aboveboard with full knowledge of the citizens? Are you saying you are against that? **** Jeremiah
A screen grab from WKYC's Facebook page.
JD tippit April 14, 2014 at 06:44 pm
santella stop your badmouthing of pigs you racist human
John Santaella April 14, 2014 at 09:40 pm
My bad. I apologize to all pigs. I shouldn't have done it. No more bacon for a month for me
Andie April 15, 2014 at 05:50 am
Someone should have walked by him and whipped a big wad of crap at him and see how he likes it.
CBS Sacramento screenshot of the bus accident in Orland, which took the lives of 10 people, including five students from Southern California.
John Chrusciel April 14, 2014 at 11:16 am
John the reports stated the vehicle was on fire. This was before the crash. Maybe the driver saw hisRead More tractor on fire and had a massive heart attack? Who knows.
John Chrusciel April 14, 2014 at 11:21 am
Decaturette back in the days before collapsible steering shafts it was a bad idea to wear a seatbeltRead More because during a head on collision the steering shaft would act as a spear and run you through. I never wore a seat belt my old MGA or TR3. However, this is no longer a problem because of modern design and engineering. Some people will hem and haw about being t-boned at an intersection and the harm that a three point harness can do. I personally know many people who have had their lives saved by seat belts. I always wear mine. They should afford children the same opportunity to protect themselves. A 25 mile per hour head on collision with another vehicle travelling at 25 miles per hour is like a 50 mile per hour collision. So I do not buy the argument about shorter distances nor do I buy the article about lower driving speeds. What can is cost to have simple lap belts installed in a school bus? Are we that greedy?
Becky April 14, 2014 at 01:03 pm
I think the real reason they don't install them is that it would raise a whole other level ofRead More liability -- like that then they would have to keep the seatbelts in good working order, and maybe enforce that people wear them. Could I sue them because another passenger flew out of their seat and hit me. Etc, etc.
Benjamin Lee Fullwood.
Grumpy Old Man April 15, 2014 at 07:59 am
@Igor - I'm no fan of Obama but your comment as to others bringing him up regarding this article isRead More right on.
A Delargo April 15, 2014 at 03:50 pm
5 Years ? Are you kidding me ? It's a stinking pig. I've seen people that stab humans get farRead More less time. Thank god it wasn't a panda, that's life !!
Igor April 15, 2014 at 04:33 pm
Well maybe they should change the law and give people who stab other humans longer than 5 years. OneRead More thing to kill an animal for food, it's another thing to do to be sadistic.
Screen grab from KTLA report
Darla April 14, 2014 at 09:11 am
More Liberal Common Core thinking... If a teacher can think a partially eaten PopTart looks like aRead More gun, then why wouldn't this marshmallow shooting device look like a WMD? It is sad and it is clear, that we will have very few students coming out of the public school system and go into any of the STEM programs. The dumbing down of America Marches onward...
A Delargo April 15, 2014 at 03:53 pm
Step back and look at what this administration has done to us. The countless wars on everything byRead More the Obaiacs have really done a disservice to this country. This is PC garbage.
Frank Estrada April 15, 2014 at 06:44 pm
Pubic unions have destroyed the City of Los Angeles....
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