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Vehicle Into Tree Critically Injures 2 in Banning

The crash was reported shortly before 1 a.m. Sunday on the westbound Interstate 10, near Sunset Avenue, according to fire officials.

Posted by Mirna Alfonso (Editor), January 7, 2013 at 01:29 am

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A vehicle struck a tree early Sunday in Banning, critically injuring two people and forcing their extrications from the wreck, fire officials said.

The crash on the westbound Interstate 10 exit ramp at Sunset Avenue was reported shortly before 1 a.m., according to Jody Hagemann, with Cal Fire/Riverside County fire.

The cause of the crash was under investigation.

A condition report was not immediately available.

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Just to clarify - the Patch didn't respond to complaints as a reason to change this. This has been…Read More in the works for a while and the same changes have been made back east as well as out here. What they did was go to Facebook style comments which allow users to control their own blogs and posts and delete anything not acceptible to them. That is not the purpose of the forums here on the Patch - these are discussion boards. These type of boards debate ideas and concepts and facts and anyone posting from ego or factually incorrect is supposed to be called on it. They are two different types of posting and Facebook posting does not work when you are discussing issues of government within a local government. I do agree with your last statement, though - the Patch will go down as a credible news and discussion forum because whoever it is that made the changes is in a position of power and is not going to admit they were wrong. FYI - the thought that Victor removed my post or ATC's post doesn't fit - they were both put back up once we made a complaint, so they obviously weren't flagged as inappropriate. It goes deeper than that. Thanks for your thoughts in response to my comments - they are appreciated! Jeremiah Price

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