.
Feedback

What are Those Knuckleheads at BUSD Up To Now?

Assuming the district will be eliminating transportation next year, what’s the reason for the later start times.

Since our school district refuse to embrace technology of the 21st century in their methods of communications with parents, we are forced to wait for the flyer in our kids’ backpacks or hope we don’t hang-up too soon on the daily robo-call to get important information. We just received a flyer in my son’s back pack with revised starting and ending times for next year. Our flyer only addresses Anna Hause and Brookside so I am hoping other parents can fill us all in with the information for their schools and see if we can figure out what Dr. Kayrell and The Collective are up to now. 

Brookside and Anna Hause will now be starting at 9:00 am and getting out at 3:20 pm on regular days (1:53 pm on those minimum days we all love so much…not!). 

I am sure parents who drop their kids off at school on their way to work are going to have some issues with these new times. I wonder if the high school will be having a revised schedule as well, if not, Brookside parents picking up their kids will now have to deal with the high school traffic as well as traffic from the Taj Mahal. 

Assuming the district will be eliminating transportation next year, what’s the reason for the later start times? Do you think anyone in the district will ask parents what they think? I would love to be able to send the district an email or pick up the phone and call to get my answers but I’m not sure if I would be following the latest policy and I would probably have to wait a month for an answer; I'm sure couldn’t afford the documentation fees anyways.  

Please leave a comment about what you found in your kids back pack.

Thanks.

Newsletter & Alerts

Get the best stories each day and important breaking news

Subscribe

Not from Banning-Beaumont Patch? Find your Local Patch »

For The Kids May 18, 2012 at 12:50 pm
I'm not sure how referring to district employees, or anyone else for that matter, as "knuckleheads" is supportive of your call for "civil and respectful" dialogue. One of the first things teachers learn, and parents should know, is that they are models of the behavior they hope to see in their students. If you make the Board, and I truly hope you do for the education you sorely need about mandates and counterproductive state and federal laws, hopefully you will leave the disrespect off the dais.
Beaumont634 May 20, 2012 at 10:48 am
He is just calling them like they are. What bunch of morons would start an elementary school at 9am??? I go to work at 4am and my husband goes to work at 7:15am, leaving my 10 year old to lock up the house and leave for the bus at 7:30am. What should he do next year when there is no bus and he doesn't start school until 9? Do I need to quit my job so that I can get my son to school at 9? That is the most idiotic idea that the collective has come up with recently (and they've had some whoppers!). I wish Kayrell would retire. The board should be made up of parents of kids in the district so that we would have some intelligent decisions made for once.
Rebecca Salato May 20, 2012 at 04:23 pm
Mr White,
Three days ago you asked for "civil and respectful" dialogue, but you continue to be disrespectful with names like "knucklehead" and "the collective" for our District Leaders. I would think as an adult and father, you would model respect; especially if your focus is truly our kids!
Lloyd White May 20, 2012 at 05:42 pm
For the kids and Rebecca, You are both right, I apologize. I didn't consider knuckleheads to be offensive and Dr. Kayrell referred to his board members as the collective will. I will stop using "The Collective" instead I will refer to the "collective will of the board". In place of knuckleheads I will use the "superintendents". I was trying to find away to distinguish the people making decisions that have a major impact on our lives without consulting us or using modern technology to communicate with us from those not making the decisions. I don't believe all the folks at the district office are responsible, not even every superintendent is. Our kids is my focus and I believe I can be civil and still make my point. Thanks for keeping me focused.
Concerned Parent May 20, 2012 at 06:09 pm
I do believe that this needs to be addressed but addressing it in a negitive way will not help the situation any. We as parents a community and as a district need to start working together better. Times are not getting any easier and if we do not pull together our children will be the only ones to suffer.
Lloyd White May 20, 2012 at 06:55 pm
Concerned parent, I couldn't agree more. I have been trying for five years to get the administration to see your logic. I have received no serious effort from the superintendents and very few parents have joined me in my cause. My frustration obviously shows. Do you have any suggestions how I can get anyone to listen? I am seriously open to ideas and I welcome support from anyone.
KarenS. May 20, 2012 at 07:49 pm
Mr. White
Have you attended any city council meetings? Maybe they could shed new light...or completely extinguish any flicker of hope (which has been my experience). Good luck to you and your children. ks
Lloyd White May 20, 2012 at 08:00 pm
Karen, I have been to city council meetings and they seem similar. I have a limited time to make a difference for my kids. Once they have survived our public schools, maybe I will have the time and energy to focus on the city.
Ellen Carr May 21, 2012 at 10:35 am
Stop the name calling. Your message is a good one but the name calling takes away from what you want to accomplish!
S. Jacks May 21, 2012 at 10:27 pm
I feel for you parents out there. That is why we have our kids in private school. None of these hassles. If we need too they have a before school care and after school care 4 bucks an hour. Can't beat that and class size is around 20 kids with a teacher and an aide. Best part NO school district to worry about.
Deleana Marie Ellis May 22, 2012 at 01:44 am
I Went To School Here In Banning FRom 1969 to 1981. Back Then We Had A Bus Stop At Every Corner..And Now You Want To Take Away Our transportation next year. That Is Not Right. I Now Have Grand Children In School...Whats Next For Our Children///
Amanda May 22, 2012 at 03:29 pm
My children are Tournament Hill's students. We also got a letter stating earlier start starting next year for this school and Three Rings Ranch. I am not 100% completely sure but i think is has something to do with trying to keep our busses and budget reasons.
Lloyd White May 22, 2012 at 03:37 pm
Amanda, I'm sure you are right about a budget issue, I hope you are right about the busing. Every indication I have leads me to believe busing for elementary students will be eliminated. I don't have a problem with the district making these changes, my problem is how they go about it. They don't include parents in the process and they don't provide us any details to why they are making changes. Telling us it is because of budget issues isn't enough info for me.
Amanda May 22, 2012 at 05:01 pm
I understand to the fullest what you are saying. When i attend district meetings i walk out not knowing anymore than i did when i arrived. I know the high school needs the updating but in my opinion they bit off more than they could chew and had to take from everything else in the district to complete that project.
Lloyd White May 22, 2012 at 05:08 pm
I think we are all going to be surprised how much they actually bit off and how much more than budgeted the construction projects are going to cost us.
Amanda May 22, 2012 at 05:09 pm
Unlike your children going later. They have made ours earlier. The Children start at 8:30 a.m. currently. Starting next school year it is going to be 7:30 a.m. start.
Mrs. Gutierrez May 23, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Why don't the parents go to the school board meetings and address this issue directly to the board of trustees? I bet the school board members were not even made aware of these changes. Parents need to become more involved by attending the school board meetings every 2nd and 4th Tuesday of the month. If they are not happy with policies or changes made at their school site, then you need to voice your concerns there and not complaining on a blog site. There was not one parent who spoke up regarding the time changes at last night's meeting. You should also be calling or sending e-mails to the board members. Let them know how you feel. They are the people that we voters placed there to run the school district. Contrary to what everyone believes, the board is elected to direct Dr. Kayrell in what he should do. Dr. Kayrell's position is NOT to tell the board what to do. If you want to complain, it is imperative that you let the school board know your concerns. If you are unhappy with the times scheduled at your student's school you can always apply for an Intra-district transfer and take your student to a school which had a start and end time more suitable for your schedule. Bottom line...... Attend the School Board Meetings and vote for school board members who will not bow down to anything they are told to do by district administration. As I said earlier, the school board is the boss over district administration, not the other way around!!!
Lloyd White May 24, 2012 at 12:15 am
Mrs. Gutierrez, I have attended 90% of the board meeting over the last five years and listened to every one I missed. I have addressed the board in the board meetings until I am blue in the face, probably close to 50 times. I have emailed and called the board members and had face to face meetings with many of the superintendents. In theory Dr. Kayrell works for the board but it is clear to a seasoned observer that the collective will of the board follows the superintendent and provides very little direction to the administration. The board recently reduced the amount of speaking time allowed for the public to address them from 5 to 3 minutes. Last night one parent, it may even have been you, told the board she wanted to talk about transitional kindergarten and the school start times but ran out of time and never commented on the start times. This board has proven to me they won't take direction from anyone but Dr. Kayrell. It is because the administration refuses to listen to parents that I started blogging. I agree parents have the power and we can change all of this through the ballot box. I hope to see you at more board meetings.
Mrs. Gutierrez May 24, 2012 at 03:38 pm
Sorry, Mr. White, I was not referring to you. I know you have been diligent in attending board meetings. I was actually directing my message to all the other parents who complain to everyone except those whom they need to complain to. They are the ones who need to step up to the plate. If you are always saying the parents want this or the parents want that and there are no other parents there standing behind you, then it looks more like I want this or I want that.
Nicole Simmons May 25, 2012 at 01:02 am
The school time change is to have buses but less drivers. There is a forty five minute interval between the school start and finish times. THE and 3RR are starting at 7:30 a.m. and Palm and Sundance are starting at 8:15 a.m. AHE and Brookside are starting at 9:00 a.m. The middle school and high school times are remaining the same. I am guessing this experiment was hatched from the "sucess" of the early gator and late start kinder to have the teachers working in pairs with two classes.
Nicole Simmons May 25, 2012 at 01:23 am
However it just goes to show that there is a lack of parent input because the reasoning of the time changes should have been included in the parent flyer....
Carla May 25, 2012 at 06:28 pm
I totally agree with you that the board should be made of parents with children in the school district, not retired teachers or coaches. And they should all live in Beaumont, not have kids that were transferred here from other cites like Banning. Just saying.
Lisa Gibbs May 25, 2012 at 09:36 pm
i dont know what the world is coming to. =[
Beaumont634 May 28, 2012 at 11:18 am
The board doesn't care what any parent has to say. That's their problem. I have addressed the board and sent emails. I am not happy about the 9am start time at Anna Hause. Luckily, my son is going into middle school next year. I'm not thrilled with the education at either of our middle schools, so I did the inter-district transfer for next year. He will be going to a magnet (public) school in Calimesa with about 6 other kids from Beaumont. Now, I have to fight to keep him there since the board decided to make the inter-district transfers up for denial each year and only good for 5 years. It's sad that I will have to drive 8 miles to get my son to a good school.
Ken July 5, 2012 at 11:08 pm
I admire your tenacity in dealing with "The Collective". Perhaps we could "clone" you and take on the "Animal Farm" (aka Beaumont City Council) . Few seemed to be interested in how this City is run. I would appreciate your perspective, tho I completely understand your childrens needs are a priority, on just some observations made here...No one else seems to care...
http://banning-beaumont.patch.com/blog_posts/beaumont-observations
Sheri Davis July 6, 2012 at 02:10 am
Mrs. Gutierrez -
Not all parents - such as myself - have adequate transportation to get to/from the board meetings. Besides, not ALL board meetings are on the 2nd and 4th Tuesday of every month. There have been several months lately where the meetings have been on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of the month - rather ironic that those are the same nights as the Beaumont City Council meetings. Makes me really wonder if BUSD administration has something to hide when they - clearly and obviously - schedule their meetings for the same Tuesday nights as the BCC. I have called and emailed District administration my concerns on many things. Guess what happens? It all falls on deaf ears. That bunch could really care less about the parents and kids that they were elected to serve. They would rather bow down to the almighty Kayrell and kiss his bum for fear of making him mad. Poor itty bitty Mr. Kayrell. What's the matter - someone hurt his feelings??? HA!!! That's if he has any. He only cares about himself and fattening his wallet at the expense of everyone else. So, let's NOT make everyone's ability to attend board meetings as simple or easy as you imply. You don't know everyone's story, you don't know everyone's journey.
Sheri Davis July 7, 2012 at 08:59 pm
I have also gone to board meetings, just to be clear. I know firsthand what it is like to be ignored to my face by the BUSD board. Been there, done that. It's part of why I don't go anymore. Aside from transportation issues. It is frustrating, so I can understand how Lloyd feels. I've gotten past being frustrated with the board (regardless of who sits on it at any given moment), or who our district supe may be at any given moment. I have taken my frustration and turned it into passion for my kids' education. My eldest has now since graduated in gold, and my other (I have 2 kids) child is starting their sophomore year at BHS. This one also finished his freshman year with straight A+'s, 4.0 GPA, ranked 1st among ALL his classmates. So, anyone want to tell me again how I "don't" do this-that-or the other as it directly relates to my kids' education? Anyone want to try to tell me again how I'm not an involved parent? If I'm not involved, then my kids would NOT be the academic success stories that they are, and I would not be the Sp Ed parent that sits on the BUSD CAHSEE Advisory Committee. That's right - I am the Sp Ed parent on the BUSD CAHSEE Advisory Committee. I also have a folder full of emails to BUSD district personnel, board members, etc. Now tell me again how involved I'm not, and I will flood out your email with my proof. Go on, try me. I'm ready for that challenge, if you can call it a challenge.
Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something
Lloyd White June 17, 2013 at 10:41 am
I find it interesting the RG was all over the State of the City luncheon but not interested inRead More printing the questions and issues raised by the Mayor's unsubstantiated claims. We should stop paying any attention to the RG if they aren't interested in what's really happening in Beaumont. I don't subscribe to the RG but it is still delivered to my house every week. Does anyone know how to stop the delivery? I could just pick it up each week and throw it in the trash but then their circulation won't be accurately represented to their advertisers. I'm going to start asking local business to stop advertising in the RG.
Ken June 17, 2013 at 11:47 am
Great idea Lloyd..They dont deliver to the old neighborhoods I guess. I generally pay the 50 centsRead More to see what they DIDNT print.
Washy June 18, 2013 at 04:37 am
Have you tried calling them and asking them to not throw trash in your driveway each Friday.
Tracy Salinas June 18, 2013 at 11:25 am
UPDATE on CV (nickname)...a tumor protruding from his right eye was removed yesterday - he now canRead More close the eye completely which, coupled with a fly mask, will keep the flies from laying eggs in his eye (a very nasty thing indeed). He has settled in with a gentle geriatric horse for a companion and is eating well (his weight was not an issue before - he obviously was fed decently). His club hoof causes him quite a lot of discomfort, but he manages to hobble around. A visit from the farrier is nextin line, to see if his discomfort can be aleviated. I don't believe he will ever be a riding horse, but he casts a nice shadow and is gentle and kind to be around. There is a peacefulness that eminates from his very being...
Ellen Carr June 18, 2013 at 11:45 am
Okay, this isn't funny. I just posted a comment and it's gone. My first post was edited now myRead More second post disappears. What's going on?????
Ellen Carr June 18, 2013 at 10:48 pm
Good news. My post from 6/17 has reappeared but my post from this morning (6/18) hasn't surfacedRead More yet. I don't have a clue as to what is going on!
Aubreey we Love You!!!
Gina Tenorio (Editor) June 13, 2013 at 02:55 pm
Beautiful! Now this is great news! Thank you both so much for sharing the news of your blessing withRead More the rest of us.
Renee Schiavone (Editor) June 18, 2013 at 02:41 pm
Congrats!
Kathleen Mccrary June 10, 2013 at 03:50 pm
THIS ADD WAS WRITTEN WRONG SORRY.LOL THE ONE ABOVE IT IS THE CORRECT ADD.
Courtesy of the U.S. Forest Service.
Renee Schiavone (Editor) June 10, 2013 at 10:59 am
Great photo, Julie... thanks for sharing!
Ben June 11, 2013 at 02:04 pm
Niki- yes the plans have been updated to allow Banning and Yucaipa to share in the use of the newRead More ponds. It is an inter-agency plan that is beneficial to everyone. Why you consider having other entities share this project, which bonds us all together: they are paying to help build the new area so we, as ratepayers aren't hit with the whole bill, and we are going to finally get some recycled water into use from Yucaipa, Banning gets new wells, and no matter what- we have ultimate control over the use at all times- how that is a horror story I can't figure out. These plans were in the works for years, it was no secret. Its now being finalized by the board- as the details are now ironed out. The only horror story I see happening is how Beaumont refuses to make an agreement with the district to utilize their recycled water- and its not all the water district's fault like you think. Beaumont can't build unless they find some new sources of water. One of the reasons they pulled out is once they update their wastewater facility- they don't plan on wasting that recycled water just on landscaping . They are going to dump it into the basin itself for the water credit. Beaumont residents have no clue that their drinking water will eventually be more wastewater than water coming down the mountain. Sorry- but I think Fraser is doing a great job. If he hadn't got in there, the district would belong to Beaumont, who would take all the water they want regardless of impact studies, and siphon off all the money for their own uses. Guess you missed their lawsuit in the courts- the courts laughed them out. Beaumont is broke. The water district is financially sound.
Niki Magee June 13, 2013 at 01:54 pm
Ben, it is unfortunate you are the victim of such serious misinformation. I thought I knew everyoneRead More at last night's BCVWD meeting. Who were you?
Claire Frémont June 15, 2013 at 09:59 am
I'm curious, Niki, what misinformation are you speaking of concerning Ben's comment? He appears toRead More be stating information that I've read about also. Beaumont did sue to try and take over the water district, they did get a cease and desist order to stop dumping their wastewater into the aquifer, and have pulled out of all negotiations with the district to supply them with recycled water. The district has made the arrangements instead with Yucaipa to take their water, with the hopes that someday Beaumont will come around. All these things are in agendas and downloads available to the public, which part are you disputing?